Comments on: Authentication https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=authentication Adoption changed my life. I write about this and so much more. Fri, 20 Nov 2020 16:55:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: 4texans https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1746 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:58:31 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1746 Gee, and I thought it was difficult to get documents apostilled in CA. At least I can mail everything to the state office, I don't have to go to the county clerk unless we use a regional office. That's such a pain you have to get each notary authenticated in their county. I agree that once you get it all in place, it will be a huge weight off your shoulders.

]]> By: 4texans https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1747 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:58:31 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1747 Gee, and I thought it was difficult to get documents apostilled in CA. At least I can mail everything to the state office, I don't have to go to the county clerk unless we use a regional office. That's such a pain you have to get each notary authenticated in their county. I agree that once you get it all in place, it will be a huge weight off your shoulders.

]]> By: Marcia K. https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1754 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:58:31 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1754 Hi Again Stephanie,
Thanks for this explanation–I understand the NY process better, and it sounds like you're on the right track after all.

If that New York Apostille seal is anything like the State of Wisconsin one, you'll be dazzled by it–such a beautiful gold intricate seal, very distinctive and as official looking as it gets!
Marcia

]]> By: Marcia K. https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1755 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:58:31 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1755 Hi Again Stephanie,
Thanks for this explanation–I understand the NY process better, and it sounds like you're on the right track after all.

If that New York Apostille seal is anything like the State of Wisconsin one, you'll be dazzled by it–such a beautiful gold intricate seal, very distinctive and as official looking as it gets!
Marcia

]]> By: Marcia K. https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1756 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:58:31 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1756 Hi Again Stephanie,
Thanks for this explanation–I understand the NY process better, and it sounds like you're on the right track after all.

If that New York Apostille seal is anything like the State of Wisconsin one, you'll be dazzled by it–such a beautiful gold intricate seal, very distinctive and as official looking as it gets!
Marcia

]]> By: Stephanie and Gary https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1757 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:30:30 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1757 Marcia — If you read this, thank you! Yes, I definitely do need Apostilles. It was the Authentication process (smack dab between Notarization and Apostilles) that was entirely new to me and not listed on any info sheets. It was almost as if I had to discover on my own that if I need to Apostille some documents in NY, then I'd better figure it out as I go along that there is a certain way to do it … so it has been a learning curve. Had my Social Worker not called me the other day, I would have been entirely surprised to show up to get Apostilled without the needed authentication seals on all my documents. How do I know what I don't even know — in regards to this process which seems to be specific to NY? I have to have authentication from three different places — one in my area, one an hour away and one 3 hours away (which we handled via FedEX.) Once all this will be accomplished, I will take everything to be Apostilled in one office in Manhattan. Thank you so much for your details and support! They are much appreciated!
Stephanie

]]> By: Stephanie and Gary https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1758 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:30:30 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1758 Marcia — If you read this, thank you! Yes, I definitely do need Apostilles. It was the Authentication process (smack dab between Notarization and Apostilles) that was entirely new to me and not listed on any info sheets. It was almost as if I had to discover on my own that if I need to Apostille some documents in NY, then I'd better figure it out as I go along that there is a certain way to do it … so it has been a learning curve. Had my Social Worker not called me the other day, I would have been entirely surprised to show up to get Apostilled without the needed authentication seals on all my documents. How do I know what I don't even know — in regards to this process which seems to be specific to NY? I have to have authentication from three different places — one in my area, one an hour away and one 3 hours away (which we handled via FedEX.) Once all this will be accomplished, I will take everything to be Apostilled in one office in Manhattan. Thank you so much for your details and support! They are much appreciated!
Stephanie

]]> By: Stephanie and Gary https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1759 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:30:30 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1759 Marcia — If you read this, thank you! Yes, I definitely do need Apostilles. It was the Authentication process (smack dab between Notarization and Apostilles) that was entirely new to me and not listed on any info sheets. It was almost as if I had to discover on my own that if I need to Apostille some documents in NY, then I'd better figure it out as I go along that there is a certain way to do it … so it has been a learning curve. Had my Social Worker not called me the other day, I would have been entirely surprised to show up to get Apostilled without the needed authentication seals on all my documents. How do I know what I don't even know — in regards to this process which seems to be specific to NY? I have to have authentication from three different places — one in my area, one an hour away and one 3 hours away (which we handled via FedEX.) Once all this will be accomplished, I will take everything to be Apostilled in one office in Manhattan. Thank you so much for your details and support! They are much appreciated!
Stephanie

]]> By: Marcia K. https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1760 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:22:50 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1760 Hi Stephanie,
I read your post earlier today, feeling such frustration on your behalf—oh when you finally do get to drop that Dossier in the FedEx box, whoosh–you'll feeling amazing relief and accomplishment because this has been a Dossier marathon like none I've ever witnessed in my 7 years of following Kazakhstan adoption journeys closely.

I have been hesitating to write this, because I have no understanding of the Authentication process in your state (I live in Wisconsin–here we don't have to get county-specific authentication, we just send the entire dossier with all the various documents notarized by several different State of Wisconsin notaries to the Secretary of State Office for Apostille). But I want to raise a concern about "Authentication" because my experiences and my current observations/understanding is that the Kaz government requires "Apostille" by the Secretary of State, not Authentications (some international adoption-countries do indeed require Authentication, but for Kazakhstan it has always been an Apostille that is required—as you said in your post, it is verification from your State's Secretary of State that all of the notary publics who witness documents within the Dossier are indeed active/in good standing notary publics for your state.)
I don't want to add to any confusion or frustration, but I encourage you to contact your agency caseworker to get better clarification from them on this.
I believe you need to request an Apostille from the Secretary of State's Office.
Persevere Stephanie!!! Just take it one step at a time, and look forward.
Blessings,
Marcia
Happy Happy Mommy to Sara Marina & Kate, both adopted from Kazakhstan

]]> By: Marcia K. https://stephaniekarpwrites.com/2009/06/authentication/#comment-1761 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:22:50 +0000 http://box2369.temp.domains/~tephaoz1/?p=275#comment-1761 Hi Stephanie,
I read your post earlier today, feeling such frustration on your behalf—oh when you finally do get to drop that Dossier in the FedEx box, whoosh–you'll feeling amazing relief and accomplishment because this has been a Dossier marathon like none I've ever witnessed in my 7 years of following Kazakhstan adoption journeys closely.

I have been hesitating to write this, because I have no understanding of the Authentication process in your state (I live in Wisconsin–here we don't have to get county-specific authentication, we just send the entire dossier with all the various documents notarized by several different State of Wisconsin notaries to the Secretary of State Office for Apostille). But I want to raise a concern about "Authentication" because my experiences and my current observations/understanding is that the Kaz government requires "Apostille" by the Secretary of State, not Authentications (some international adoption-countries do indeed require Authentication, but for Kazakhstan it has always been an Apostille that is required—as you said in your post, it is verification from your State's Secretary of State that all of the notary publics who witness documents within the Dossier are indeed active/in good standing notary publics for your state.)
I don't want to add to any confusion or frustration, but I encourage you to contact your agency caseworker to get better clarification from them on this.
I believe you need to request an Apostille from the Secretary of State's Office.
Persevere Stephanie!!! Just take it one step at a time, and look forward.
Blessings,
Marcia
Happy Happy Mommy to Sara Marina & Kate, both adopted from Kazakhstan

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